Tackle problems with TinyMCE (change to Nicedit maybe?)

[micha]

As we have had many complaints about problems with TinyMCE, we should either try other What-you-see-is-what-you-get editors or fix TinyMCE and our backend. Information should never get lost!

relevant pages:

• forums
• blog/create
• trip/create
• editmyprofile

...

[micha]

new replacement "Nicedit" is on test. Feel free to test it (forums/new or blog/create e.g.). Image upload is now possible and easy to use.

[crumbking]

picture integration seems to work.

I dont like that you have to integrate the links via the button. (still the same like in tiny)

in couchsurfing forms you just type www.bw or  http://www.something.com and it will be a clickable link

dont know is this somehow possible?

[micha]

This should be possible. Apart from that, are there any problems with Nicedit? Is it an improvement to the current situation?

[globetrotter_tt]

I don't see a deterioration nor an improvemnet, except that Nicedeit loads a bit faster, though with TinyMCE you have more possibility to style text.

But the actual problem is that posting without js editors is a problem: no linebreaks and lineheight too small. We should rather fix this first.

[crumbking]

maybe its not such a good idea to have the What-you-see-is-what-you-get editors in the profile page  http://test.bewelcome.org/people/crumbking

dont know... somehow I belive we will loose the compactness of our prile structure

[micha]

Hmmm. I thought the biggest complain was that things get fucked up / lost if you post stuff to the forums with TinyMCE.

@crumbking: That's indeed something to weird for the profile summary. But there's easy ways to limit the width/height for pictures for example. Or we could deny image-tags at all for the profile summary. Other than that, I don't see big problems if single people decide to show some colored fonts or headings etc. in their profile summary. Do you?

[crumbking]

@micha: the basic idea is good but we should limit the picture width/height.

about the lost posts... never had any problem with TinyMCE just was waiting for the image integration in the forum :)

[midsch]

My biggest problem with TinyMCE is NOT using it. When blocking JS - and as a result getting rid of the useless wysiwyg-editor - the text from textboxes is not stored/send properly, most worst: linebrakes (this is also true for the resulting feeds/textmails).

Using TinyMCE: the produced code is dirty, deleting never deletes the whole tag, but there's no codeview to fix it.

(Sidenote: If you ask me: drop all wysiwyg-editors and the including js everywhere. The page will be much faster. Oh, and before replacing the editor: there is already a lot of js loaded on everypage - needed or not - so maybe there are some interactions messing up the code.)

[micha]

how to proceed here. Seems TinyMCE is as bad as always and NiceEdit? didn't really help. I still think, that a wysiwyg-editor is nice to have and part of a functionality we should not miss. But we should definitely make formfields work without it.

[globetrotter_tt]

I think we should set this ticket to "wontfix" as the real problem is not really related to TinyMCE. I would really appreciate if the user could decide which editor "wysiwyg" or "textarea" he wants to use. (like here in trac ;-) )

[midsch]

I still think a fix is needed, even if not for TinymMCE. Not using the JS-features shouldn't end up in desaster.

[globetrotter_tt]

Yeah, but i would rather create a new ticket like "make sure that everything in bewelcome works without js" Should attract more attention than hacking TinyMCE

[micha]

I agree with globetrotter_tt here. Setting ticket to wontfix.